Error Code A127_F
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Rheem R802VA07542117MSA Error Code A127_F: Flame Present with Gas Valve Off - UL

TL;DR
Code A127_F is the UL-flagged form of the undesired-flame alarm on the Rheem R802VA07542117MSA: the flame sensor detects flame while the gas valve should be closed. Because that can mean gas is burning when the furnace commanded it off, shut the furnace off, close the manual gas supply valve, and call an HVAC technician; if you smell gas, leave the home first and call your gas company.
Disclaimer
This article is for informational purposes only and does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of the information provided. Always turn off power and gas supply before attempting any repairs. If you smell gas, leave immediately and call your gas company. Consult a licensed HVAC technician for diagnosis and repair. Any actions taken based on this information are at your own risk.

What Does Code A127_F Mean?

Code A127_F describes the same physical event as code A014_F on this board — the flame sensor reads flame while Rheem's Bluetooth Communicating IFC has commanded the gas valve closed — but A127_F is the UL (Underwriters Laboratories) compliance-flagged form of that fault, raised through the control's safety-monitoring logic for gas ignition systems. Whether the furnace reports A014_F or A127_F for a given undesired-flame event, both point to the same underlying hazard on your two-stage, variable-speed R802VA07542117MSA: combustion appears to be happening when the control believes it shut the gas off.

A127_F is the mirror image of code A126_F elsewhere on this board. A126_F is gas valve confirmed open with no flame detected — an unburned-gas risk during ignition — while A127_F is flame detected with the valve supposed to be closed. It is also distinct from code A116_F, which is the formal one-hour lockout state built around this same undesired-flame condition; A127_F is the UL-flagged detection of the condition rather than the lockout-timer code itself.

The primary safety concern is a gas valve stuck open and continuing to supply gas after the 'off' command, or a control-board relay that has welded closed and keeps voltage applied to the valve regardless of what the IFC commands — the condition described by codes A225_F (gas valve 1 relay welded shut) and A093_F (internal fault, possibly a welded gas-valve relay). A faulty flame-sensing circuit giving a false positive is the other possibility. If the valve cannot be confirmed to close, gas can keep flowing during periods when the furnace should be completely idle, which is why this is treated as a critical UL fault and why the safe homeowner action is to shut the furnace off and close the manual gas supply valve until a technician has inspected it.

What You'll Notice

Common Causes

Cause Likelihood DIY?
Gas valve stuck in open position Most common ✗ Call a pro →
Faulty flame sensing circuit giving false positive Common ✗ Call a pro →

How This Is Diagnosed

A technician measures the flame-sense current with the gas valve commanded off to verify the flame condition is real rather than a false electrical reading, tests the gas valve's solenoid and coil to confirm it closes reliably, and verifies the actual voltage at the valve terminals against what the IFC has commanded, since this board monitors valve voltage directly.

If the valve itself closes correctly, the technician checks the control-board relay that switches it for welding — the condition behind codes A225_F and A093_F — because a welded relay keeps the valve powered no matter what the board commands and produces a genuine uncommanded flame. That is why a recurring A127_F is treated as a control and gas-train inspection rather than a simple sensor issue.

When to Call a Professional

This code involves components that are not homeowner-serviceable, so have a licensed HVAC technician diagnose and repair it. Keep in mind:

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Frequently Asked Questions

Why is this called a 'UL' fault?

UL safety listings require monitoring checks on gas ignition systems. A127_F is the UL-flagged form of the undesired-flame condition that A014_F also describes, generated through the control's safety-compliance logic, and both point to the same hazard.

Should I be worried about carbon monoxide?

Uncontrolled combustion from a stuck-open gas valve can produce unsafe combustion byproducts, which is why the furnace should stay shut down and the manual gas supply closed until a technician has inspected it. If you smell gas, leave the home and call your gas company.

What typically needs replacing?

Most often the gas valve itself, though a welded control-board relay — the condition behind codes A225_F and A093_F — or a faulty flame-sensing circuit can trigger the same code. A technician needs to test them before parts are ordered, and cost varies by region and which part is at fault.

Is A127_F the same as A126_F?

No, they are opposites. A127_F is flame detected when the gas valve should be off, while A126_F is the gas valve confirmed open with no flame detected. Both are UL safety faults but describe mismatches in opposite directions.

Sources

  1. Installation Instructions - 80+ Upflow/Horizontal Two-Stage and Single-Stage Bluetooth Communicating Gas Furnaces with Constant CFM/PWM Blower

✓ Verified against manufacturer service manual — March 2026